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What does Huawei's trade ban mean for your Huawei or Honor phone?

June 02, 2020

As a result of a ban on trading with the US, Huawei can't preload newly released phones with Google apps like Maps and YouTube, the Play Store or Google Assistant. 

Pre-May 2019 Huawei and Honor phones will continue to get security updates and current devices that due to get Android 10 will still get it. Huawei laptops will get all the Windows updates in the traditional manner.

But newly released Huawei phones can't use Google services and this is set to be a long-term issue. Note this doesn't apply to any P30 Series handsets including the P30 Pro New Edition (May 2020) which is, essentially, an upgraded P30 Pro rather than a new phone. 

These Huawei phones don't have Google services

The Huawei P40 and P40 Pro, Mate 30 series, Mate Xs and Honor 30 series don't have any Google apps. They rely on Huawei apps and the App Gallery download store, which doesn't have a huge number of apps at present. And in particular things like online banking apps and specific services aren't currently catered for, although Huawei is making a huge effort to improve this. 

These new Huawei and Honor phones do come with Android 10 (with Huawei's EMUI 10 user interface on top). But you can only install Google apps via a relatively convoluted and dodgy process and neither Huawei or Google officially recommend this. 

The story so far

In May 2019 it was announced by the US government that Google and US businesses have to change the way they deal with Huawei. The Chinese giant was blacklisted by the US in the latest skirmish of the ongoing trade war.

Google was particularly vociferous that preventing Huawei using its version of Android could potentially result in national security issues through people using a Huawei-developed replacement OS - now revealed to be HarmonyOS. In reality, it's probably because non-Android phones would hit Google profits. 

On 29 June 2019, President Trump said he had agreed to allow US tech companies like Google and Qualcomm to once again start selling to Huawei following the restart of trade talks between the US and China. The caveat is that it's only for goods not connected to national security. Trump made the comments at a press conference at the G20 summit in Osaka, Japan. The move seemed to be a reaction to the fact US companies were feeling the effect of the ban.

On 1 August 2019 Trump appeared to contradict his earlier statement (for a change), "we're not allowing Huawei into our country, we're not changed on that". This would have shown a stronger stance had he not immediately clarified it with "we can do business on non-security things with Huawei, we can do that". On 5 September Trump stated again that "Huawei is a big concern of our military, of our intelligence agencies, and we are not doing business with Huawei".

Around this time, Huawei and Honor devices were added back onto the Android Enterprise Recommended website. That's significant as Google is actively recommending them to businesses for long-term use.

Huawei filed a lawsuit against the US telecoms regulator (the FCC) as it has banned US carriers from buying Huawei gear with subsidies paid by the FCC to carries to guarantee access to telco services continue to be available right across the US.

In January 2020 the Trump administration signed a trade agreement with China which saw a thawing of the trade war, but there was no provision for Huawei in the agreement. It's thought that a second deal is on the table but there isn't a consensus on whether this will help or hinder Huawei. 

The US Department of Commerce has dumped plans to introduce rules to mak it harder for American companies to deal with Huawei - presumably because of the damage to US businesses. As we mentioned, Google is not a fan of the trade ban. It does, however, show that different parts of the US Government can't agree on a united plan of dealing with the company.

In late 2019, the Department of Commerce said it had received around 300 license requests for continuing to deal with Huawei and has approved arrange a quarter of them. 

On 14 May 2020 it was announced that the Trump administration has extended the original trade ban for another year until May 2021 stopping US companies from purchasing or using telecommunications equipment made by firms considered a national security risk.

And on 15 May 2020 the US Commerce Department outlined further restrictive measures on Huawei to restrict it from making chips using US technologies using American-based IP or even equipment. The new rules mean that Huawei would need a license to use any US tech. Clearly this is an outright attempt to disadvantage a company that competes with many US firms - Huawei had tried to 'indigenize' some of its design processes within the US to circumvent the original ban. 

How does Huawei feel about the situation?  

At the Mate 30 launch in September 2019, Huawei CEO Richard Yu told Pocket-lint that Huawei could push Google apps to affected devices "overnight" if the ban was lifted but said that he felt the phone will still sell well in many territories, especially China of course (we've been led to believe this is the case).

He also opened up on his feelings about the ban. "It’s not good for US companies, it’s not good [for us]…in the past we [made] a big contribution to US companies. And now it’s not allowed to use…it's damaging to US companies' business.

"We are very open and transparent. We are a globalised company. In the US-China trade war we have become a bargaining chip.

"We didn’t want to do this…we were forced to do this. We have a good partnership with Google but the US Government forced us to do this. I hope you guys [journalists] can understand this."

On 18 May 2020, Huawei issued a strongly-worded statement hitting out at the latest proposed measures to stop it using US technologies at all, including in the manufacture of chips inside its other products. 

"In its relentless pursuit to tighten its stranglehold on our company, the US government has decided to proceed and completely ignore the concerns of many companies and industry associations," said the statement.

"This new rule will impact the expansion, maintenance, and continuous operations of networks worth hundreds of billions of dollars that we have rolled out in more than 170 countries."

"The US is leveraging its own technological strengths to crush companies outside its own borders. This will only serve to undermine the trust international companies place in US technology and supply chains. Ultimately, this will harm US interests."

How does this relate to the Huawei 5G issue in the UK?

Australia and Japan have blocked Huawei from involvement in 5G networks, but the UK Government has seen no reason to do the same (it did identify some problems in Huawei's software which the company is working to fix with the help of GCHQ). 

The US Government doesn't like the UK having kept Huawei 5G hardware involved, part of an ongoing campaign against the Chinese giant. But even if the UK doesn't see the risks with Huawei that the US seems to, it may be backed into a corner. The UK needs a US trade deal in the post-Brexit world and it might have to introduce further restrictions on Huawei equipment to get that deal over the line.

Certainly, it seems like rebel MPs in the UK's ruling Conservative party are trying to force a rethink, so this story may not be over. 

The practicality in introducing a Huawei 5G ban in the UK is extremely difficult. All the UK networks use Huawei tech in their networks although increasingly not in the core network, presumably in case future issues are identified. However, in terms of antenna gear, Huawei remains a massive player.

What the trade ban means for other companies dealing with Huawei

 Since the Google situation became apparent other suppliers such as ARM, the SD Card Association, Intel, Microsoft and Qualcomm said they would have to suspend trading with the Chinese giant, so there was hurried work behind the scenes trying to get partnerships signed off.

Microsoft is able to keep supplying Windows licenses to Huawei. So the question remains - why not Google? 

US chipmaker Intel supplies the chips for Huawei’s laptop line and is continuing to do so, presumably because Intel can supply these chips from elsewhere. 

What does it mean for existing Huawei devices?

Existing pre-May 2019 Huawei devices like the P30 Series (including the P30 Pro New Edition), P20 Series and Mate 20 Series are unaffected in their current form. No apps will disappear and they can continue to use Google apps and get security updates. Because Honor is a subsidiary of Huawei, the same implications would apply to its handsets, too.

Google is clear on this point: "For users of our services, Google Play and the security protections from Google Play Protect will continue to function on existing Huawei devices".

For its part, Huawei says it "will continue to provide security updates and after-sales services to all existing Huawei and Honor smartphone and tablet products covering those which have been sold or are still in stock globally."

What wasn't clear for a time was whether Huawei and Honor handsets would get feature updates. But we now know the following devices are getting the upgrade to Android 10 during 2020 and they'll also get EMUI 10, Huawei's user interface, on top too. So the owners of these phones need not worry at all about this situation. 

  • P30 Pro
  • P30 Huawei
  • Mate 20 Huawei
  • Mate 20 Pro
  • Mate 20 RS
  • P30 lite
  • P smart 2019
  • P smart+ 2019
  • P smart Z
  • Mate 20 X
  • Mate 20 X 5G
  • P20 Pro
  • P20
  • Mate 10 Pro
  • Porsche Design Mate 10
  • Mate 10
  • Mate 20 Lite
  • Honor 8X
  • Honor 10
  • Honor 20
  • Honor 20i/20 Lite
  • Honor 20 Pro

30 May update: Added extra links and context about the ongoing situation.

11 June update: Added new developments from Google and UK operators.

20 June update: Added information about devices getting Android Q update

1 July update: Added information on Trump's G20 statement and new Huawei statement

9 August update: Major rework after the announcement of HarmonyOS

12 August update: Android Enterprise information added

30 August update: Added latest info from Reuters

9 September update: Added Mate 30 information from IFA 2019

18 September update: Added latest Mate 30 information

20 September update: Added Mate 30 launch information and Richard Yu quotes

11 November update: Added latest situation on US-China trade talks

6 December update: Added latest information

20 January update 2020: Added latest information including trade deal developments

13 March update: Refined information

28 April update: Added latest information

14 May update: Updated with latest Trump ban



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